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And if you’re like us, two chronically online, deeply caffeinated, millennial liberals, you might’ve also noticed that keeping up with the news has started to feel like a slow emotional breakdown in real time.

Hi. We’re Jordan and Lauren, and this is a weekly comedy podcast about politics, culture, and whatever fresh nightmare comes next.

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